Down in Argentina I grabbed some time with Steve McIntyre, Debian's 11th project leader since its founding 15 years ago. Steve has been on the job since April of this year and I checked in to see how it was going.

Some of the Topics we tackle:

- What Steve's been doing his first four months on the job
- The survey he sent out to all the teams to see what was working and what wasn't, and what he learned
- Progress on the search for the sender of the death threats
- The dunc-tank brouhaha and how things have quieted since then
- The power of derivatives (e.g. Ubuntu, the City of Munich, Spain...) and trying to make it easier for them to contribute back.
- How decisions are made in this organized chaos -- a do-ocracy rather than a democracy and how things be dictatorial as a release nears
- How Debian is similar to kernel.org

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