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I'm not a big fan of Gnome but I decided to work up 2.10 as some of the pclinuxos users do use that desktop enviroment. Right off the bat I hit a snag. Seems the GTK2 linux-fb build has been broken since 2.50! I've been using 2.4.9 all this time as it works so well with ALL of my GTK2 applications including a bought and paid for FTP client (iglooftp pro). Needless to say without the linux-fb backend, Iglooftp is pretty useless and many GTK2 applications will have to be re-worked. The really bad part is not a single person is maintaining this code in the GTK2 tree. I tried my best to get it to build but it was just beyond my coding experience. I tried to work up gnome using GTK 2.4.9 but it is so old that gnome 2.10 wouldnt build against it. So for now I've put the new gnome build on the back burner until I can get kde 3.4 offical release out the door.

Speaking of KDE 3.4, my previous arts.patch that lets xmms play nice doesnt work with the new arts 1.4.0. I can play in esd, arts and alsa but trying to play xmms with the osd driver just causes xmms to blink right off the screen. This little glib problem has been going on for quite some time. Im hoping the guy that did the original patch will work up a new one soon.

Somne good news is I got Hal to build along with dbus and Im going to try to intergrate it into my new kde 3.4 build based on the information found at http://kde.ground.cz/tiki-index.php?page=DBUS

On the livecd front Darin who tests the heck out of the livecd scripts with the latest kernels reported that he has a livecd running with kernel 2.6.11, the new Nvidia drivers and unionfs which gives the cd read/write functions!

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Got it working

Got gtk2 to work now so Im back on track and put about 15 rpms for gnome 2 2.10 in unstable. Still alot more work ahead.

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