DSL 1.5 to DSL 2.0.....finds the wireless card on the earlier, not on the latter. why??-
Submitted by teeceemadison on Mon, 12/05/2005 - 13:22.
i really love the DSL 1.5-, made my boot cd, and all works fine....
finds my wireless card, i go to the control panel, click prism2, button, and im off and running.
while im flying around on the net, i looking at the programs available and trying to figure out the 'filemanager' app...
i then tried dsl 2.0, same procedure, made boot cd, comes up, but when i click prism2 button on control panel, it doesnt see the same card i just used moments ago when i had the 1.5 distro in....why is that???
thanx
DSL 1.5 to DSL 2.0.....finds the wireless card
Well, I don't know exactly and can't be much help except to state that I tested the 2.1 rc1 and found about the same thing. It recognizes my card and modules are loaded, but no device is made for it - which kinda brings the process to a halt. What a shame.
Perhaps you should post on their forum.
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You talk the talk, but do you waddle the waddle?
yeah, i did that on the forum
yeah, i did that on the forum, no response yet...it makes no sense how one works on one cd, and the 'newer' release doesnt with the exact same settings....
Re: yeah, i did that on the forum
yeah, i did that on the forum, no response yet...it makes no sense how one works on one cd, and the 'newer' release doesnt with the exact same settings....
It may be different kernel options or perhaps something broke in the pcmcia stuff. I say that cuz I put in another widely recognized and linux compatible wired card (netgear) and it too went unrecognized, so it's not confined to just wireless. I put in this other wired netcard (3 com) and it did fine. My wireless that works in every linux tried is a linksys wpc11 (v3). Yeah, weird and frustrating.
here's something i did notice
here's something i did notice. when i load 1.5, as it is scrolling thru the various linux setup items, it shows the cardmanager doing some sort of modprobe and finding the wlan...
when i load 2.0, it gets to that point, cardmanager and then it shows that the device is temporarily unavailable....then it finishes the loading and that is when i can not run the web....and the system doesnt recognize the card.....
im used to running from the command line in windows, what is the equivalent in dsl? i want to get the exact modprobe command it runs sucessfully during the boot of 1.5, and see if i can run that once 2.0 loads...
where do i do that???
module
Boot your 1.5 and /sbin/lsmod and see what module it uses.
I can modprobe orinoco for the wireless card on mine and it gets loaded, but still no net device gets made. (shrugs)
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You talk the talk, but do you waddle the waddle?
i will try that, but it is ve
i will try that, but it is very frustrating because i see this dsl as a product that has a lot of potential and i would like to learn a bit of linux just for my own education as well.
i wish there was a basic primer for this stuff, i mean, im used to windows file manager, where is that type of app in dsl????
Re: i will try that, but it is ve
i will try that, but it is very frustrating because i see this dsl as a product that has a lot of potential and i would like to learn a bit of linux just for my own education as well.
Yes, dsl has always been wonderful, I'm a fan from waay back. With pcmcia, you'll need some basic bus support, which is usually set up automagically with binary based distros if you have card services set to start at boot. For example, yenta_socket is used by some older laptops like mine, but I think not so much anymore and serial_cs is required by many. Almost assuredly you'd need pcmcia_core loading and probably ds. Newer laptops might use others. If you google your "'laptop model' linux pcmcia", you might find out which you need. These are the basic kernel support components that most binary distros build as modules. Then you'll need to load the module for your particular card. One way to determine the module needed for your card is to boot the system that works and look at the cli output of /sbin/lsmod. Another is to google "'your card' linux". Modules can be thought of as drivers by the way.
i wish there was a basic primer for this stuff, i mean, im used to windows file manager, where is that type of app in dsl????
Well, dsl is so small that it can not feasibly include a heavy graphical file manager like windows explorer. In addition, stand-alone file managers aren't very plentiful as I found out during my excursion into LFS.
DSL does include emelfm. It's a sorta graphical file manager that will not show "previews" or icons representing the mimetype, but instead lists the files by name. It does include some of the most often used functions as "buttons" to push and has a built in command line for convenience. If you wanted "browse" your files and click on say an image for viewing, you can 'browse' them thru mozilla using the address: file:///home/you or file:///any/directory
If you have the resources, perhaps you might want to try a more traditional linux distro that comes with 'everything'. DSL is great, but it is by definition limited. I recommend PCLOS for newcomers, but it is heavy. If resources are somewhat limited, Wolfix is wonderful. In fact, you could read thru the list of my "Original Content" and see if you see anything that might meet your needs better.
These are a few helpful sites. Usually googling your problem with the word linux can dig up more specific posts.
http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/index-linux.html
http://www.linuxcommand.org
http://www.linuxorg.net/docs
wow, thanx for the ton of inf
wow, thanx for the ton of info, it will take me some time to wade thru all that....im just still a bit confused as to why the 1.5 sees the card and 2.0 doesnt, that cardmanager message during the boot process says the device is temporarily unavailable...why is that when it is perfectly available when booting 1.5 minutes earlier?
i do have knoppix 4.0 on the way to me right now, so i assume that is closer to a 'traditional' linux you are referring to?
thanx again.
Re: wow, thanx for the ton of inf
...why is that when it is perfectly available when booting 1.5 minutes earlier?
oh stuff breaks all the time. sometimes when upgrading, some libraries aren't compatible with new versions of software or vise versa. it happens quite frequently. It's one of the headaches of being a developer. ...so I've heard.
i do have knoppix 4.0 on the way to me right now, so i assume that is closer to a 'traditional' linux you are referring to?
Oh yeah, you'll love knoppix. I don't know how it'll do exactly on pcmcia and wireless, but I bet it'll do just fine. It was the first to have the best most accurate hardware detection. I mean, that's what impressed me about it when it first arrived on the scene. Hey, report back how it goes okay?