today's leftovers:

Re: # # Linux has permanently lost the desktop

Watch how many tablets and devices in general run Linux or Android. The 'desktop' is no longer the game to play; the author happens to cite ESR, who has written at least 2 posts in the past 2 weeks about how Linux (or "Open Source") is winning the mobile race. Watch how frantic Apple gets over Linux... suing it with software patents now, as it tried to do about 7 years ago. Apple tried tablets with iPad (looks like a failure), but Linux/Android+ARM shut the door in Apple's face.

Linux has permanently lost the desktop? No. /The world/ has permanently lost the desktop

Dr. Roy thanks for supporting Linux mobile enterprise solution ?

The key is supporting text to speech open source development.

iPad is weight defeating. Dell mini5 if 5" wide is more of an ebook. Maybe batteries are light weighted(supported by farad capacitor) enough to get better customer reception like kindle but in color.

Its not a war between Microsoft and Linux anymore; its the hardware design, cheaper and weigh less; so you can hold it and read.

But text to speech delivery of enterprise data needs no hands or magnifying eyeglasses.

Many Linux and Java apps are too old and not usable in the cloud. IE8 still has more market share due to Firefox shooting itself in the foot by not using proprietary VP8 code that Google Youtube does.

ARM and x86

Its not a war between Microsoft and Linux anymore; its the hardware design, cheaper and weigh less; so you can hold it and read.

Yes, exactly.

re: the Desktop

"The world has permanently lost the desktop"

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha.

Tell that to all the Enterprises of the world. The desktop is so firmly entrenched in the business world it will be here forever (or at least until Skynet takes over).

And Apple, how do they figure into that argument - with their meager 6 or 7 percent desktop share - 95% of that at the consumer level?

Well, desktops already lost ground to laptops on desks ?

The projection is for the next five years desktops may disappear, replaced by laptops(wireless installation) and netbooks(more affordable upgrade) in enterprise networks.

Cellphones will be carried to be used in addition to laptops same as today, except cellphone in the next five years will be more powerful and can handle enterprise data transfer by voice or speech. Cellphones(SOC) are even more affordable in enterprise upgrade for data transmission speed(SYMM GPS edgeQam channels syn'd by onboard miniature atomic clock instead of microwave towers to central office).

Huh?

atang1 wrote:
The projection is for the next five years desktops may disappear, replaced by laptops(wireless installation) and netbooks(more affordable upgrade) in enterprise networks.

Who projects that?

TCO on Laptops are at least TRIPLE that of a standard desktop, due to their total reliance of propriatary parts, fragile nature, and difficulty in monitoring/managing local content (especially off site).

As to netbooks, my secretary couldn't do 80% of her functions on the weak cpu, tiny screen, tiny keyboard let alone workers, managers, exec's, etc.

In our lab, we do various research projects, and NEVER would consider using WiFi for major connections.

Projections are based on trend or hardware design ? Five years !

While you are looking at the first generation of hardware designs, you can see the inadequacies. Linux(forever new versions) netbooks were replaced by XP netbooks. Fanless cooling enhanced by bios doing cpu lower frequency steppings. But semiconductors are continually improving microminiaturization, integrating speed and power(terabyte appliance is still a dream today). It may take five years to achieve terabyte appliance in nand flash memory.

Wireless is here to stay, and security is in edgeQam channels bonded to your device, not ethernet mesh which anyone can jam in?

So, future takes dedicated people to promote, talking about the trend yet to come. Profit motives and productivity achievement(customers do your record keeping in cloud computing) will take us down the yellow brick road to our promised home(Alice in her wonderland).

consider the source

At this point there's pretty much nothing that one says that any sensible human being can take seriously.

Big Bear

Common sense isn't enough for technical discussions?

If its technical, do join in and make sense.

Who projects that? Some

Who projects that?

Some company called "Guggel".

Google 'desktop gone in five years' came up with 2 sources ?

Morgan Stanley mobile network(hardware desktop) study in 2009.

Eweeks talked about the fat OS(software desktop) gone, substituted with flash memory and fast bootup(Android?).

Importance of nonSQL and non relational database ? No index !

Relational database started with sorting engines. You have to use the database to sort its data. SQL relational database can use search engine to get all the data listed in priority based on your generator(object technology).

Today, the data is transferred by packets(storage too, how AT&T can give you a record of your telephone usage) in realtime. The data format is different, but the data can be XML. So, nonSQL database has been used by many social network. Data is not indexed. Search engine has to have the best of the breed priority assignment for listing of data objects.

So, working with Twitter and its noSQL, search engine is different. Yahoo, Bing and Google can not search Twitter database easily, especially if Twitter has to modify its database frequently. Cross referencing in Twitter is often missing in data. They caught up in summary of number of followers and followings often, but never accurate at any realtime time and space continuum.

So, BerkeleyDB maybe the king, and others(Facebook Cassandra) as well; there will be many years of adjustments made on the new utilities for nonSQL databases. Bing and Yahoo may self destruct trying to search Twitter database without using Twitter search engine object technology.

MySQL stores files which you can search. NoSQL stores array(variables) data for each user in the format of their webpage. To search noSQL, you have to know the user name and array name. Bing has 5000 user names, then they can only search 5000 Twitter users. Twitter may have 50 million users in Cassandra.

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