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Linux Stability - An oxymoron once reserved for Windows

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I remember a time when Linux was rock solid, and Windows computers couldn't stay running no matter what you did to try and make them stable. Boy things sure have come full circle. My few Windows machines have now been running for months, suspending or hibernating on command. They perform their duties, and never complain, crash, or give me any trouble what-so-ever. I sure wish I could say the same about my Linux workstations though.

My most recent "Linux" pain began after yesterdays Fedora 13 update which for some reason brought with it kernel 2.6.34.

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Um, Fedora?

The rant is about a recent upgrade to his kernel on Fedora. Isn't that the point of Fedora, to run the most recent code, breakage or not? Isn't that the point of multiple kernels?

No pain, no gain

No pain, no gain. No guts, no glory.

That's the kernel game for you. No reason, though, to condemn Linux itself.

fewt

He's a vocal regular on linsux.org. Need I say more?

hah - funny stuff.

@lefty - I'm not using the Fedora testing repository so I expect Fedora to be stable between major releases. It is a stated goal, google it. Big Grin

@Barista - So, I shouldn't expect the Linux kernel to work properly between releases? Nice.

@djohnson - Yep, I hang out there. Does that mean anything at all? No, get over it. Wink

I hang out at TechSnap, the Aurora Linux forum, and the Eee User forum too oh noes! Wink

Their point is I think

That you chose fedora, which as a distro in general uses apps and tools that are known to be akin to Debian "sid" level type of stability.

You really can't judge all of Linux on a distro that is primarily experimental. The kernel is interacting with the installed apps in ways that more stable apps have had cleaned up, so you can't just blame the kernel by itself, it doesn't stand alone in terms of whole usage.

I use multiple Linux distros such as Debian, CentOS, opensuse, mepis, Mint and PCLOS, I can honestly say, that while there are always minor things in the apps that might pop up here and there, I haven't experienced the kind of instability you refer to at all.

@bigbearomaha

"That you chose fedora, which as a distro in general uses apps and tools that are known to be akin to Debian "sid" level type of stability."

Quote:

For these reasons, the Fedora Board is issuing a stable release update vision statement to help guide the creation and implementation of a Fedora Updates policy. This policy is not meant to govern the introduction of new packages.

By creating this statement it is the Board's belief that:

End-user satisfaction with our distribution will increase
Developers and end-users will have a have a more solid stable release experience
End-users and developers will have more time to focus on other areas in Fedora

Source: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Stable_release_updates_vision

"I haven't experienced the kind of instability you refer to at all."

Thank you for the dose of WorksForMe™.

got news for ya

worksforme is a reality, whether you like to hear it or not.

ever heard of saying one thing and doing another? I have heard fedora say those things, still waiting to see it.

If you want to be bitter about your lack of ability to use Linux, that;s your problem, nut the truth of things is, there are plenty of people who "magically" use Linux everyday without the hassles the whiners can;t seem to accomplish.

Is there the occasional install that goes awry, of course, those things happen with any OS. but to try to make it sound like an everyday thing for everyone is far from the truth.

but, just to show there's no hard feelings, I'll get out my violin and play along for you.

Big Bear

@bigbearomaha

worksforme just makes you a zealot, and your opinion worthless.

"If you want to be bitter about your lack of ability to use Linux"

LOL .. This just makes your opinion all the more worthless. I promise you that my issue had nothing to do with a lack of ability to "use Linux". You sure talk a big game for someone that doesn't have 1/2 a clue about the issue that I spoke of.

Have a nice day!

Big Grin

@fewt

Béranger, is that you? What's up with the new tag?

he wouldn't be that obvious

would he?

Wow,

I guess it is true, denial and being convinced you are the only one who knows something can make you closed off to what you don't want to hear.

Good luck with that.

Big Bear

LOL

bigbearomaha wrote:
I guess it is true, denial and being convinced you are the only one who knows something can make you closed off to what you don't want to hear.

Good luck with that.

Big Bear

WOOSH!

I think I'll be alright, but thanks for your concern.

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